Tuesday, September 12, 2000
11:00 AM
Minnesota Partnership to Improve End of Life Care
Minnesota Commission on End of Life Care
Call to order at 11:10 AM
Welcome and Introductions
Ed Ratner from the Minnesota Partnership to Improve End of Life Care introduced co-chairs Barry Baines, MD and Deputy Commissioner Julie Brunner (filling in for Commissioner Jan Malcolm) from the Department of Health. Members introduced themselves. A list of members present at the meeting is attached at the end of this document.
Guests attending the meeting who introduced themselves were: Tom Scheck, Minnesota Public Radio; Buddy Ferguson, Department of Health; Kay Markling, Department of Health; Linda Sutherland, Department of Health; Linda Petersen; and Bob Anderson, Metropolitan Area Agency on Aging.
History/Background of the Partnership
Please see attached power point slides that were in the Commission on End of Life Care packets for the information presented on the history and background of the Minnesota Partnership to Improve End of Life Care.
Goals of the Commission
Deputy Commissioner Julie Brunner identified the goals of the Commission on End of Life Care:
The Commission will identify issues in the following areas:
Announcements
The representatives from the Senate and House of Representatives have not yet been identified. The Department of Health will look into this before the September meeting.
"Hospice: A Photographic Inquiry" is an art exhibit coming to the University of Minnesota’s Weisman Art Museum which begins May 20th and runs through August 13th.
Lunch – Reconvene at 12:35 PM
Opportunities Experience
The Opportunities Experience was a chance for Commission members to express their end of life healthcare concerns by sharing a personal story.
Barry Baines identified one or two word themes from the stories:
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Break
Public Comments
Bob Anderson of the Metropolitan Area Agency on Aging remarked that he is excited to work with the Minnesota Partnership to Improve End of Life Care and the Minnesota Commission on End of Life Care.
Toni Baker of the Metropolitan Area Agency on Aging introduced herself but did not comment.
Linda Sutherland from the Minnesota Department of Health said that the stories have been helpful in raising issues/problems that could be addressed individually to help accomplish a lot of changes in end of life healthcare.
Kay Markling from the Department of Health and Jane O’Brien from the Minnesota Partnership to Improve End of Life Care attended to observe.
Defining the Issues
Using the information sheet from the Commission packet, the nine issues listed were presented by Dr. Baines and then discussed by the group. The group then worked to validate the issues. A flip chart was used in this section to identify major points raised, the flip chart phrases from this section are written in boxes.
Deputy Commissioner Brunner suggested that a running list of terms to be kept and defined for the Commission, public and intended audience. Two specific terms arose during the meeting that require definition:
Issue #1 – Barriers to Dying at Home
Jeannette Metz verified the issue by stating that widowed/unmarried elderly persons often don’t have a primary caregiver and that is a barrier to dying at home. Dr. Baines clarified and said that many people do die in long term care facilities. Dr. Ratner further commented that the desire to die at home isn’t necessarily "home", but wherever the person is familiar.
Rabbi Barry Cytron is concerned with the data, or lack thereof, on end of life care presented in the information sheet.
Catherine Blaeser had a question about deaths that are able to occur at home, how many deaths could not under any circumstances occur at home? Dr. Mark Leenay clarified by saying that roughly 10% of deaths are sudden.
Kathleen Cota suggested that financial incentives drive the access to services and hospice. Dr. Ratner suggested that most people near the end of life are receiving some type of services, which aren’t necessarily treated as referral sources to hospice and other healthcare services. Deputy Commissioner Brunner suggested that financial incentives to end of life care, either more or less, could be a segment of this issue. Dr. Leenay suggested the term ‘financial barriers’ rather than ‘incentives’.
Elinor Hands brought up the workforce issue. The lack of capable workforce to visit people at home is another barrier to dying at home.
Dr. Baines assessed this issue as validated.
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Issue #2 – Late Enrollment
Dr. Baines reviewed the information. When people are enrolled in hospice, they usually don’t receive services for very long. Angie Smith Lillehei wished to call this issue "Barriers to Early Hospice Referral" instead of "Late Enrollment". Changing the name could help expand this issue. Dr. Ratner suggested that it could be referred to as late involvement of palliative care.
Ms. Cota suggested that this issue is reflective on our society being a death denying culture.
John Diehl suggested that this issue could fall as a sub-issue under several other issues raised. Theresa McManaman agreed by stating that she didn’t know how the Commission could deal with this problem on its own when it fits more appropriately under other issues.
Dr. Leenay clarified that there are barriers to enrollment under the hospice Medicare benefit, which is out of the Commission’s range of influence. The concern was that the issue could become too broad. Dr. Leenay also felt that this issue could fall under other issues.
Dr. Baines summarized that this issue is a valid issue, but it could possibly be assumed under another issue as a sub-point.
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Issue #3 – Inconsistent Institutional Care
Dr. Ratner shared the story of one nursing home that uses floral linen when a patient is actively dying. It is a subtle way to notify caregivers of the situation, and not all nursing homes have a policy of this nature.
Ms. Metz and Linda Sutherland both raised the issue of staffing in long term care facilities and the lack of consistency found across the state.
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Issue #4 – Inconsistent Emergency Transportation Standards
Dr. Baines assessed that this issue had already been validated by the stories told in the first segment of the meeting.
Issue #5 – Lack of Certified Palliative Care Health Professionals
Ms. Hands raised the question of whether or not it is important to be certified. Does certification effect the level of expertise and quality of care? Ms. Blaeser questioned how one would define a level of qualification without certification. Linda Norlander replied to this concern by stating that certification is a measure by which to gauge the level of expertise of an end of life healthcare worker, however that does not suggest that non-certified caregivers are unqualified.
Dianne Bartels suggested that we define this issue more broadly. She suggested it might fit better under the education of healthcare professionals category.
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Issue #6 – Lack of End of Life Education for Health Professionals
Chief Huisenga wanted to include healthcare providers that come from education/training institutions other than colleges and universities.
This issue was validated without further discussion.
Issue #7 – Loss of Services
Dr. Baines and Ms. Hands explained this issue. Under the hospice benefit, patients could be forced to relinquish their long-term caregivers (i.e. PCA’s) in order to enroll in hospice. Ms. Hands clarified by saying this issue arises most with the waivered services and might be an ADA issue.
Ms. Cota said she would look into this issue on her own at the Department of Human Services.
Mr. Diehl remarked that this is more of a reimbursement criteria issue than a regulatory issue and it might fit better under the issue "The Expense of End of Life". Ms. Norlander said that it is not entirely a reimbursement issue, because part of the issue involves the financial burden on the family due to loss of services.
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Issue #8 – Inconsistent End of Life Data
This issue was validated during the "barriers to dying at home" discussion.
Issue #9 – The Expense of End of Life
Ms. Blaeser expressed concern that end of life patients would be treated as a cost-saving population when these are the people who are sickest. Everyone agreed that the issue needed to be re-worded to better capture the meaning of this issue.
Dr. Baines and Dr. Ratner talked of the impoverishment of families at the end of life due to the expense of end of life care of a loved one. Dr. Ratner suggested that a model be made for insurance at the end of life not for healthcare costs, but for the survivors to ensure they do not fall below the poverty level as a result of medical expenses.
Mr. Diehl stated that the desire isn’t to "skinny down" spending on the end of life population but rather to use the money for that population more appropriately to provide higher quality care to dying patients.
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Dr. Baines called for further comments on issues. Mr. Diehl commented that he would like to see the Commission work with the consumer side as well as the vendor side of end of life healthcare. Chief Huisenga commented that there is still a need to match resources with needs. He also stated that the resources available are still being used inappropriately.
Summary
Dr. Baines summarized the Commission meeting:
For the next meeting:
Dr. Baines thanked everyone for their participation and attention. He also thanked Deputy Commissioner Brunner for filling in on short notice.
Evaluations
Meeting adjourned at 2:55 PM
NEXT MEETING ® 11:00 AM to 3:00 PM on Tuesday, September 12th
Minnesota Department of Health Service CenterMississippi Room of Snelling Office Park
1645 Energy Park Drive, St. Paul
Members Present at the Commission on End of Life Care Meeting - 9 May 2000
Barry Baines, MD Co-Chair
Minnesota Partnership to Improve End of Life Care
Deputy Commissioner Julie Brunner (for Commissioner Jan Malcolm) Co-Chair
Minnesota Department of Health
Dianne Bartels
University of Minnesota Center for Bioethics
Catherine Blaeser
Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life
Kathleen Cota
Minnesota Department of Human Services
Rabbi Barry Cytron
Jay Phillips Center for Jewish-Christian Learning
John Diehl
Minnesota State Bar Association
Karen Gervais
Minnesota Center for Health Care Ethics
Elinor Hands
Minnesota Hospice Organization
Chief David Huisenga
Minnesota Emergency Medical Services Regulatory Board
Mark Leenay, MD
Minnesota Medical Association
Lillian Eid
American Association of Retired Persons (AARP)
Angie Smith Lillehei
Deva House
Theresa McManaman
Minnesota Council of Health Plans
Jeanette Metz
Minnesota Board on Aging
Margaret Owens
Care Providers of Minnesota
Paul Quie, MD
University of Minnesota Academic Health Center
Edward Ratner, MD
Minnesota Partnership to Improve End of Life Care
Lisa Solterman
Minnesota AIDS Project
Don Westergard
Minnesota State Council on Disability
Staff support:
Linda Norlander and Brenda Paul
Minnesota Partnership to Improve End of Life Care
Minutes by Brenda Paul, MN Partnership to Improve EOL Care - brenda@tcaging.org